Problema changing Default Time Step in TOTP token

OK, folks.
That is easy.
Changing the defaultTimeStep after enrolling the token?

I guess there at least 10 others out there, who can explain this! ;-)Am Donnerstag, den 25.08.2016, 02:51 -0700 schrieb Luis Gerardo:

Hi,

I need to change the validity time of a TOTP token from 30 seconds to
60. To do this I went to Config -> TOTP Token Settings and I changed
the Default Time Step to a value of 60 but now the codes never
expire!!

The Default Time Window is 180 and the Default Time Shift is 0.

Does anyone know what I’m doing wrong?

Thanks,
Luis


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OK, folks.
That is easy.
Changing the defaultTimeStep after enrolling the token?

I guess there at least 10 others out there, who can explain this! :wink:

If it’s possible to change a TimeStep for a generated token from the server
(privacyIDEA) also the client (example Google Authenticator) will need to
know this time/period for generate/verify/authenticate token. Right?On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 11:54:04 AM UTC+2, Cornelius Kölbel wrote:

    OK, folks. 
    That is easy. 
    Changing the defaultTimeStep after enrolling the token? 
    
    I guess there at least 10 others out there, who can explain
    this! ;-) 

If it’s possible to change a TimeStep for a generated token from the
server (privacyIDEA) also the client (example Google Authenticator)
will need to know this time/period for generate/verify/authenticate
token. Right?

Hi Luis,
Sim is right. And in addition, if you change the defaultTimeStep, this
has no effect on the token. You need to change this in the token
details.
also note: The timestep does not tell, how long the OTP value is valid!
Kind regards
CorneliusAm Donnerstag, den 25.08.2016, 03:08 -0700 schrieb simvirus@gmail.com:

On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 11:54:04 AM UTC+2, Cornelius Kölbel wrote:


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Works as expected.
The default timewindow is imho 180 seconds.

I.e. system looks 180secs before and after to cope with drifting clocks.
I.e. if you wait 90secs, this looks like the clock of your totp token
would be late 90secs. Look at the tokens timeShift!Am Donnerstag, den 25.08.2016, 10:16 -0700 schrieb Luis Gerardo:

I am using FreeOTp app.

When I say “The code don’t expire” I mean that I never get a “wrong
otp value” when I use a otp from the app. Despite of wait 90 seconds
or more. I only get this error if I try to use it more than once.

El jueves, 25 de agosto de 2016, 12:55:51 (UTC+2), Cornelius Kölbel escribió:
Please really improve your questioning!

    What do you mean "The code don't expire"? F***** guessing
    here. 
    I am GUESSING you enrolled an HOTP token! 
    
    Are you using an App or a hardware TOTP token? 
    
    Kind regards 
    Cornelius 
    
    Am Donnerstag, den 25.08.2016, 03:49 -0700 schrieb Luis
    Gerardo: 
    > Hi Cornelius, 
    > 
    > 
    > I changed the defaultTimeStep to 60. After that I created a
    enrolled a 
    > new token but ignored the 60 seconds. When I set
    defaultTimeStep to 30 
    > seconds again and I enrolled a new token the codes don't
    expire. And I 
    > don't know what is happening :( 
    > 
    > El jueves, 25 de agosto de 2016, 11:54:04 (UTC+2), Cornelius Kölbel  escribió: 
    >         OK, folks. 
    >         That is easy. 
    >         Changing the defaultTimeStep after enrolling the
    token? 
    >         
    >         I guess there at least 10 others out there, who can
    explain 
    >         this! ;-) 
    >         
    >         Am Donnerstag, den 25.08.2016, 02:51 -0700 schrieb
    Luis 
    >         Gerardo: 
    >         > Hi, 
    >         > 
    >         > 
    >         > I need to change the validity time of a TOTP token
    from 30 
    >         seconds to 
    >         > 60. To do this I went to Config -> TOTP Token
    Settings and I 
    >         changed 
    >         > the Default Time Step to a value of 60 but now the
    codes 
    >         never 
    >         > expire!! 
    >         > 
    >         > 
    >         > The Default Time Window is 180 and the Default
    Time Shift is 
    >         0. 
    >         > 
    >         > 
    >         > Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong? 
    >         > 
    >         > 
    >         > Thanks, 
    >         > Luis 
    >         > 
    >         > 
    >         > 
    >         > 
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Please really improve your questioning!

What do you mean “The code don’t expire”? F***** guessing here.
I am GUESSING you enrolled an HOTP token!

Are you using an App or a hardware TOTP token?

Kind regards
CorneliusAm Donnerstag, den 25.08.2016, 03:49 -0700 schrieb Luis Gerardo:

Hi Cornelius,

I changed the defaultTimeStep to 60. After that I created a enrolled a
new token but ignored the 60 seconds. When I set defaultTimeStep to 30
seconds again and I enrolled a new token the codes don’t expire. And I
don’t know what is happening :frowning:

El jueves, 25 de agosto de 2016, 11:54:04 (UTC+2), Cornelius Kölbel escribió:
OK, folks.
That is easy.
Changing the defaultTimeStep after enrolling the token?

    I guess there at least 10 others out there, who can explain
    this! ;-) 
    
    Am Donnerstag, den 25.08.2016, 02:51 -0700 schrieb Luis
    Gerardo: 
    > Hi, 
    > 
    > 
    > I need to change the validity time of a TOTP token from 30
    seconds to 
    > 60. To do this I went to Config -> TOTP Token Settings and I
    changed 
    > the Default Time Step to a value of 60 but now the codes
    never 
    > expire!! 
    > 
    > 
    > The Default Time Window is 180 and the Default Time Shift is
    0. 
    > 
    > 
    > Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong? 
    > 
    > 
    > Thanks, 
    > Luis 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > -- 
    > Please read the blog post about getting help 
    > https://www.privacyidea.org/getting-help/. 
    >   
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    factor 
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I understand your expectations.

But there are too many parameters missing. In my opinion the behaviour
is right - since RFC6238 implementation is right. But I can not explain
to you WHY this is happening (due to missing parameters).
And I am not born into this world to request every single parameter one
by one here to explain this behaviour.

You may take a look at the tests.


If you are convince the behaviour is wrong, please add a corresponding
test.

Kind regards
CorneliusAm Freitag, den 26.08.2016, 02:58 -0700 schrieb Luis Gerardo:

Hi Cornelius,

I’ve made the test below:

  1. I enroll a token with timeStep: 30 and timeWindow: 120 (so, the otp
    is valid for 120 seconds, and in this time 4 otps will be generated.
    Is it?)
  2. I wait until I have 5 different otp
  3. I test the token with the first otp I get and I get a success with
    a timeShift of -280

I don’t understand this results. It would fail the test. Does it have
sense?

Kind regards
Luis

El jueves, 25 de agosto de 2016, 22:46:55 (UTC+2), Cornelius Kölbel escribió:
Works as expected.
The default timewindow is imho 180 seconds.

    I.e. system looks 180secs before and after to cope with
    drifting clocks. 
    I.e. if you wait 90secs, this looks like the clock of your
    totp token 
    would be late 90secs. Look at the tokens timeShift! 
    
    Am Donnerstag, den 25.08.2016, 10:16 -0700 schrieb Luis
    Gerardo: 
    > I am using FreeOTp app. 
    > 
    > 
    > When I say "The code don't expire" I mean that I never get a
    "wrong 
    > otp value" when I use a otp from the app. Despite of wait 90
    seconds 
    > or more. I only get this error if I try to use it more than
    once. 
    > 
    > El jueves, 25 de agosto de 2016, 12:55:51 (UTC+2), Cornelius Kölbel  escribió: 
    >         Please really improve your questioning! 
    >         
    >         What do you mean "The code don't expire"? F*****
    guessing 
    >         here. 
    >         I am GUESSING you enrolled an HOTP token! 
    >         
    >         Are you using an App or a hardware TOTP token? 
    >         
    >         Kind regards 
    >         Cornelius 
    >         
    >         Am Donnerstag, den 25.08.2016, 03:49 -0700 schrieb
    Luis 
    >         Gerardo: 
    >         > Hi Cornelius, 
    >         > 
    >         > 
    >         > I changed the defaultTimeStep to 60. After that I
    created a 
    >         enrolled a 
    >         > new token but ignored the 60 seconds. When I set 
    >         defaultTimeStep to 30 
    >         > seconds again and I enrolled a new token the codes
    don't 
    >         expire. And I 
    >         > don't know what is happening :( 
    >         > 
    >         > El jueves, 25 de agosto de 2016, 11:54:04 (UTC+2), Cornelius  Kölbel  escribió: 
    >         >         OK, folks. 
    >         >         That is easy. 
    >         >         Changing the defaultTimeStep after
    enrolling the 
    >         token? 
    >         >         
    >         >         I guess there at least 10 others out
    there, who can 
    >         explain 
    >         >         this! ;-) 
    >         >         
    >         >         Am Donnerstag, den 25.08.2016, 02:51 -0700 schrieb 
    >         Luis 
    >         >         Gerardo: 
    >         >         > Hi, 
    >         >         > 
    >         >         > 
    >         >         > I need to change the validity time of a
    TOTP token 
    >         from 30 
    >         >         seconds to 
    >         >         > 60. To do this I went to Config -> TOTP
    Token 
    >         Settings and I 
    >         >         changed 
    >         >         > the Default Time Step to a value of 60
    but now the 
    >         codes 
    >         >         never 
    >         >         > expire!! 
    >         >         > 
    >         >         > 
    >         >         > The Default Time Window is 180 and the
    Default 
    >         Time Shift is 
    >         >         0. 
    >         >         > 
    >         >         > 
    >         >         > Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong? 
    >         >         > 
    >         >         > 
    >         >         > Thanks, 
    >         >         > Luis 
    >         >         > 
    >         >         > 
    >         >         > 
    >         >         > 
    >         >         > -- 
    >         >         > Please read the blog post about getting
    help 
    >         >         >
    https://www.privacyidea.org/getting-help/. 
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    >         >         > For professional services and
    consultancy 
    >         regarding two 
    >         >         factor 
    >         >         > authentication please visit 
    >         >         > 
    >
    https://netknights.it/en/leistungen/one-time-services/ 
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NetKnights GmbH
http://www.netknights.it
Landgraf-Karl-Str. 19, 34131 Kassel, Germany
Tel: +49 561 3166797, Fax: +49 561 3166798

Amtsgericht Kassel, HRB 16405
Geschäftsführer: Cornelius Kölbel

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